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MISSION STATEMENT:

iDesign Club at UCI seeks to foster scientific discussions regarding the origins of life and the universe. Theories such as Darwinian evolution, intelligent design, and creationism will be critically analyzed.


FAQ:

Q: WHAT IS THIS CLUB ABOUT?

Origins! We are interested in discussing alternative theories to the origins of biological structures. While the current mainstream theory in academia is Darwinian evolution, we would also like to discuss other viable ideas, such as intelligent design.

Q: WHO CAN BE A MEMBER OF THIS CLUB?

Anybody! Students of Biology, Chemistry, Physics, Mathematics, Computer Science, Engineering, Anthropology, and Philosophy may especially find this club intriguing. However, you do not need to have a science background to be an effective member of this club.

Q: WHEN AND WHERE ARE CLUB MEETINGS?

Please check blog entries for time and place.

Q: WHAT IS THE MEMBERSHIP FEE?

Nothing! There are no membership dues.

Q: IS THIS CLUB BIASED TOWARDS ONE SPECIFIC THEORY OF ORIGINS?

Perhaps. Ponder the name of this club. This club is ideologically the mirror of another club at UCI, the Students for Science and Skepticism. However, our main goal is to give a balanced view of the controversy regarding the origins of life so that students can come to an informed conclusion themselves.

Q: WHAT DOES THE LETTER "i" STAND FOR IN iDESIGN?

Good question -- the answer is intelligent.

Q: WHERE IS THE CLUB CONSTITUTION?

We adhere to the minimum constitution that was provided by the Dean of Students. In the future, we plan to draft a comprehensive constitution and bylaws.

Q: IS iDESIGN AFFILIATED WITH ANY ORGANIZATION?

No. However, we are friends with the IDEA Center


ORGANIZATION:

PRESIDENT:
Arthur
Information and Computer Science

VICE PRESIDENT:
Brian
Biology / English

DIRECTOR:
Andrew
English / Economics



Wednesday, January 18, 2006

Defending ID 3: Who designed the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

This post deals with two rather light-weight objections to ID which weren't worth their own posts.

1) The Flying Spaghetti Monster reductio
The Flying Spaghetti Monster historically arose as a reductio ad absurdum argument against teaching ID in schools. If ID can be taught in schools, the argument goes, then the equally scientific notion that a Flying Spaghetti Monster created the world must also be taught.

It should be obvious that this does not reduce ID to an absurdity at all. If anything it is aimed more at young-earth-creationism than at ID. ID is agnostic about the identity of the designer - all it claims is that the designer was "intelligent". So insisting that a particular theory about who the designer might have been is clearly outside the bounds of what ID is proposing.

2) Who Designed the Designer?
Another common argument against design is "Who designed the designer"? Since the designer that ID posits must have been really smart and really powerful, he was presumably also very complex. But if he was complex then he requires a designer, which results in an infinite regress.

Many things could be said about this. Interestingly enough, according to the Christian doctrine of divine simplicity God is not "complex", and thus wouldn't necessarily warrant a design inference. But completely aside from that, ID is an empirical science, and as such is only interested in drawing inferences based on observable data. No design theorist would suggest that it is valid to infer design for something that had not been observed.

Posted by Wedge at 9:49 AM

1 Comments:

Blogger Art said...
Regarding (2):

I think there must be a First Cause that can transcend time in order to avoid this infinite regress. Since this First Cause transcends the dimension of time, there is no need to look for a prior cause to this First Cause.
1/18/2006 11:07 AM

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